Standard BR blue font height

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Standard BR blue font height

Postby Gary66 » 15 Sep 2018 22:17

Evening chaps,
as above, can anyone tell me the height of the digits of the TOPS numbers, please? (standard BR blue livery)
I think its 200 mm but I'm not 100% certain. I've hunted high and low for weeks and can't find this info anywhere!
Cheers for any help.
Gary Hardings,
slowly bringing the other end (#1) of 50046 back to life.
I couldn't stretch to a whole one so bought a bit of one!
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Re: Standard BR blue font height

Postby Skeggycat » 17 Sep 2018 17:53

Welcome Garry,

There does not appear to be a set size for tops numbers (except within cabs/brake ends, when it must be a minimum of 25 mm).

Railway Group standards GM/RT 2210 of June 1995 - Identification of Rail Vehicles - States in---------

Part B 4.3 - Display of Vehicle Numbers...

Sub part 4.3.1 - Vehicle Numbers...

States only...

The vehicle number shall be clearly displayed in full externally on each side
of the vehicle using Latin characters and Arabic numerals of such a size as
to be easily readable from a safe distance.


So it would appear that 200 mm or there about was probably the norm.

Hope that helps.

As an aside:-

Current regulations in....

RIS-2453-RST, Issue 1, December 2017

State;-

4.2 Display of GB operational number (TOPS)

4.2.1 For existing GB registered vehicles, the GB operational number (TOPS) shall:
a) Be displayed on each side of the rail vehicle using a minimum of 80 mm high
Arabic numerals.
b) Be written in sans serif font.
c) Contrast with the background.
d) Not be positioned higher than 2 m above rail level.

And so it goes on and on and on with lists of exceptions etc. etc.
Gordon Brewer.

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Re: Standard BR blue font height

Postby D402 » 18 Sep 2018 08:12

There is no standard height, for example the number heights on a Class 08 are different to those on a Scottish Class 20 and different to those on a Class 50. The details are on the painting diagrams not that depots or works stuck to them....
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Re: Standard BR blue font height

Postby Gary66 » 20 Sep 2018 16:17

Hi Gordon& Phill, I have since found that all the above is very much the case just to muddy the waters a little.
I've been looking at these digits since I was probably 12 in 1978 and have been fooled all along :lol: thinking it was a BR 'standard'.
Having asked Mr Walker last day or so, he concurs that 146 mm looks good on a Deltic so going by that figure, I'll probably go with that when the time comes.
Thanks for your very comprehensive reply to my question, very interesting.
As they say, every days a school day!
Phill, Do you work on 402? I'm only just outside Looe and keep meaning to pop up for a look at her one day.
Once had a cab ride on 002 from Reading to Padd way back in 87 when I started on the railway, just flashed my staff priv and driver said "yep, jump in", how times have changed! :lol:
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